GooblyWoobly
09-17 04:11 AM
I think Wah Wah is confused by the differences between 'retrogression' and 'backlog'. Of course, you are right that the PDs are not likely to go much further back (I think USCIS took a conservative approach after July - note they are still issuing visas to those with non-current PDs but are using the bulletin to limit incoming new filings). However, if 20 million applied in July the coming backlogs would be horrendous, even though priority dates would not necessarily need to go back further.
However, in a sense, if the backlog is perpetual, and let's say the PD never really moves forward by more than, for example, one month, in the next 10 years (I'm picking extremes to make my point) then the effective retrogression at that point would be greater than say todays.
Phew. Anyway, I think that's what he was on about!
:)
That'd happen even with or without July Fiasco. If there were 20 million people with PD in 2006, as soon as the PD in VB reaches 2006, that many people will apply, and the PD will be stuck there forever. So, what my point is, July Fiasco made NO DIFFERENCE to retrogression (except the effect of some resources at USCIS spent on receipting/issuing EAD&AP).
I agree it's very bad, and we need to fight it. But I just didn't want to people panic on something that's un-true. I'm tired of the FUD, that's it!! Just see, now in another thread somebody is speculating about discrimination against Indians inside USCIS!!
However, in a sense, if the backlog is perpetual, and let's say the PD never really moves forward by more than, for example, one month, in the next 10 years (I'm picking extremes to make my point) then the effective retrogression at that point would be greater than say todays.
Phew. Anyway, I think that's what he was on about!
:)
That'd happen even with or without July Fiasco. If there were 20 million people with PD in 2006, as soon as the PD in VB reaches 2006, that many people will apply, and the PD will be stuck there forever. So, what my point is, July Fiasco made NO DIFFERENCE to retrogression (except the effect of some resources at USCIS spent on receipting/issuing EAD&AP).
I agree it's very bad, and we need to fight it. But I just didn't want to people panic on something that's un-true. I'm tired of the FUD, that's it!! Just see, now in another thread somebody is speculating about discrimination against Indians inside USCIS!!
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styrum
02-08 03:05 PM
Well, MS + 11 month (but not 12) will do then, cause zone IV is has SVP "7.0 to < 8.0"
I (DOL rather) take it back. SVP "Levels" are not fractional so (7.0 to < 8.0) actually means 7 only (http://online.onetcenter.org/help/online/svp):
7. Over 2 years up to and including 4 years
8. Over 4 years up to and including 10 years
So there is nothing between 7 and 8, and since 8 is not included into the interval it means 4 years max for zone IV. Period!
So, for zone IV employer can't require more than BS +2 or MS with no experience for the requirements to be considered "normal". Nice!
Check out this passage from the Job zone IV desctription though:
"For example, an accountant must complete four years of college and work for several years in accounting to be considered qualified."
So "several years" can't be more than 2!!!!:eek:
I (DOL rather) take it back. SVP "Levels" are not fractional so (7.0 to < 8.0) actually means 7 only (http://online.onetcenter.org/help/online/svp):
7. Over 2 years up to and including 4 years
8. Over 4 years up to and including 10 years
So there is nothing between 7 and 8, and since 8 is not included into the interval it means 4 years max for zone IV. Period!
So, for zone IV employer can't require more than BS +2 or MS with no experience for the requirements to be considered "normal". Nice!
Check out this passage from the Job zone IV desctription though:
"For example, an accountant must complete four years of college and work for several years in accounting to be considered qualified."
So "several years" can't be more than 2!!!!:eek:
axp817
06-10 09:34 PM
Thanks for your informed comments. Like you, I am also surprised to find many people in this forum, who are interested in fire arms.
I don't own a fire arm and not planning to while the immigration status is not yet Citizenship. I don't want the authorities to give another reason to look into my case. I just go for fishing once in a while.
But our family owns two guns in India and have worked with guns from childhood.
Another point is I am very much impressed with how the Americans manage wild life and the nature in general. They enjoy it while preserving it. India does neither. We just destroy it, and write eloquent speeches on nature protection.
Thank you, always glad to help. Many years ago, I was looking for answers to these questions and had to do my own research, internet forums weren't as big then.
I am a hunter as well, and when I went through hunter education, I was amazed to learn how serious the west was about wildlife and nature conservation. Hunting is a very important part of nature conservation. Every country that legalizes hunting, does so in a controlled manner in order to prevent a biological surplus in a species' habitat.
I don't fish that often, except for the odd deep sea fishing trip when the weather is nice, but anything that can get one outdoors breathing fresh air wins my vote.
godspeed,
I don't own a fire arm and not planning to while the immigration status is not yet Citizenship. I don't want the authorities to give another reason to look into my case. I just go for fishing once in a while.
But our family owns two guns in India and have worked with guns from childhood.
Another point is I am very much impressed with how the Americans manage wild life and the nature in general. They enjoy it while preserving it. India does neither. We just destroy it, and write eloquent speeches on nature protection.
Thank you, always glad to help. Many years ago, I was looking for answers to these questions and had to do my own research, internet forums weren't as big then.
I am a hunter as well, and when I went through hunter education, I was amazed to learn how serious the west was about wildlife and nature conservation. Hunting is a very important part of nature conservation. Every country that legalizes hunting, does so in a controlled manner in order to prevent a biological surplus in a species' habitat.
I don't fish that often, except for the odd deep sea fishing trip when the weather is nice, but anything that can get one outdoors breathing fresh air wins my vote.
godspeed,
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PavanV
10-11 01:01 AM
BharatPremi,
Looks like we are in minority :), I guess people need to be educated about legalities of the immigration system, just because one applies for a green card , or one gets a Green card, he/she does not become part of the country.
Please remember this folks, till you become citizens you are still representing your home country :), and BharatPremi mentioned US of A only expects that you don't indulge in any activities that the government lists as against the US of A, after all we are all here only because the country allowed us in because they perceive there is a need for high skilled labor, letting us contribute and at the same time benefit from this huge economy,we are at their discretion legally, and they can show us the door just as the way it was opened to let us in, just because you are here does not mean you can demand rights :) and call this your home country, that is what the illegals do. I am sorry for sounding so depressing, I witnessed a mass layoff at my company and a lot of my friends (Americans) who are very senior folks were let go, I was spared, somehow that is hurting my conscience, and I am not in a position either to voluntarily give up my job.I want everybody to be happy, and prosper, layoffs reflect the ugly side of capitalism, the weak and old are exploited.
All the best in your immigration process folks, you will need all the luck to stay here.
Sarve jano sukhino bava (Let everybody be happy)
Can you please provide us any link or legal constitutional document from any legal organization in India and USA which states that Patriotic Indian ( For the sake of argument Indian) should not apply for US Green Card ( Permanent residency)? Or for that matter can you legally proove that not applying for US GC is the barometer of patriotism towards India for an Indian?
Do you have any reading comprehension capabilities?
Read the first sentence of following link and let me know what do you comprehend?
Your lesson for US immigration starts from here.
USCIS - Green Card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)
Best Luck.
Looks like we are in minority :), I guess people need to be educated about legalities of the immigration system, just because one applies for a green card , or one gets a Green card, he/she does not become part of the country.
Please remember this folks, till you become citizens you are still representing your home country :), and BharatPremi mentioned US of A only expects that you don't indulge in any activities that the government lists as against the US of A, after all we are all here only because the country allowed us in because they perceive there is a need for high skilled labor, letting us contribute and at the same time benefit from this huge economy,we are at their discretion legally, and they can show us the door just as the way it was opened to let us in, just because you are here does not mean you can demand rights :) and call this your home country, that is what the illegals do. I am sorry for sounding so depressing, I witnessed a mass layoff at my company and a lot of my friends (Americans) who are very senior folks were let go, I was spared, somehow that is hurting my conscience, and I am not in a position either to voluntarily give up my job.I want everybody to be happy, and prosper, layoffs reflect the ugly side of capitalism, the weak and old are exploited.
All the best in your immigration process folks, you will need all the luck to stay here.
Sarve jano sukhino bava (Let everybody be happy)
Can you please provide us any link or legal constitutional document from any legal organization in India and USA which states that Patriotic Indian ( For the sake of argument Indian) should not apply for US Green Card ( Permanent residency)? Or for that matter can you legally proove that not applying for US GC is the barometer of patriotism towards India for an Indian?
Do you have any reading comprehension capabilities?
Read the first sentence of following link and let me know what do you comprehend?
Your lesson for US immigration starts from here.
USCIS - Green Card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)
Best Luck.
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CADude
05-02 01:26 PM
Look for few stupid guys like us and feel better... More you wait difficult to let it go... It's slow poision with slimmer of hope. We have been teached for "shunk cost" but tought to implement on ourself. Still live in false hope and lives goes on...
PD: July 2001 and came to this country in 1999. For what not sure any more. :):D
Folks...cannot wait...any options left....
Boring....india is better it looks....waiting for GC then Citizenship...is going to be a hell....inflation is high....
Anand
PD: July 2001 and came to this country in 1999. For what not sure any more. :):D
Folks...cannot wait...any options left....
Boring....india is better it looks....waiting for GC then Citizenship...is going to be a hell....inflation is high....
Anand
chanduv23
07-08 02:31 PM
One of my co-worker was in same boat. His desi employer revoked his I-140 when he took fulltime employement in 2005. He got his GC finally.
I am in same situation. As of yesterday, my previous employer would have revoked my 140.
I already sent the AC21 letter, there are no LUDs. My attorney says, chances that the letter may not go into the file are high and the reason we send AC21 paperwork is to keep a record that we sent. I took a screen shot of the DHL tracking info too.
Any ideas how to ensure that AC21 paperwork is getting into your file.
The answers I see on this forum is
(1) USCIS is overwhelmed with documents so mail can be trashed
(2) USCIS clerk does not know how to handle the paperwork
(3) USCIS certifying officer is not well educated about AC21
Any idea on how to ensure AC21 paperwork really goes into your file.
I am in same situation. As of yesterday, my previous employer would have revoked my 140.
I already sent the AC21 letter, there are no LUDs. My attorney says, chances that the letter may not go into the file are high and the reason we send AC21 paperwork is to keep a record that we sent. I took a screen shot of the DHL tracking info too.
Any ideas how to ensure that AC21 paperwork is getting into your file.
The answers I see on this forum is
(1) USCIS is overwhelmed with documents so mail can be trashed
(2) USCIS clerk does not know how to handle the paperwork
(3) USCIS certifying officer is not well educated about AC21
Any idea on how to ensure AC21 paperwork really goes into your file.
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ita
09-29 10:40 PM
My PD is current for almost a year and Name check is cleared in July 2008.
No soft or hard LUD's sofar. :mad:
Chris- how did you find out your NC has been cleared?
Thank you.
No soft or hard LUD's sofar. :mad:
Chris- how did you find out your NC has been cleared?
Thank you.
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franklin
06-15 09:06 PM
[FONT="Microsoft Sans Serif"]From numerous visits to USCIS facilities, the Ombudsman has observed that adjudicators prefer to work on the cases that are easiest to complete. Adjudicators pick the �low hanging fruit� first because supervisors base performance evaluations on the number of cases completed. Consequently, adjudicators put aside the most difficult and time-intensive cases. These cases remain pending, perhaps for years, while backlog reduction appears generally to be succeeding.
Is there any information on what an "easy" case is?
Is there any information on what an "easy" case is?
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wandmaker
06-25 04:59 PM
In EAD form, they are asking about previous EAD info..like which service center, what date, GRANTED or REJECTEd etc.. Now I had two EADs..one is OPT and other one I got last year. Do I have to write info for both one or just for last year?? In last year's form, I wrote info about my OPT. But what now?
1. Paper filing mention your last EAD
2. eFiling mention your last EAD and there is also a space for two previous EAD, you will have to fill in that too.
1. Paper filing mention your last EAD
2. eFiling mention your last EAD and there is also a space for two previous EAD, you will have to fill in that too.
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ssingh92
11-01 08:05 PM
I only see 3 approvals in Oct...
I asked my attorney he said that I need to wait at least 1 more year. The Nov and Dec are gone in holidays. These Gov emp are worst then Indian Gov Emp.
I asked my attorney he said that I need to wait at least 1 more year. The Nov and Dec are gone in holidays. These Gov emp are worst then Indian Gov Emp.
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gconmymind
07-31 01:08 AM
Forget September, can any member say with confidence that dates for October will move forward at least 3 years for each category compared to August Bulletin?:rolleyes:
I can say with confidence that dates for October WILL NOT move forward 3 years for ANY category compared to August Bulletin.
We will be lucky to see 1+ year movement for EB-2/3 India/China. My 2 cents..
I can say with confidence that dates for October WILL NOT move forward 3 years for ANY category compared to August Bulletin.
We will be lucky to see 1+ year movement for EB-2/3 India/China. My 2 cents..
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rajsenthil
10-02 10:58 AM
I heard that the rules were different before but as of this year, at least one of the parent of Indian origin need to be an US citizen to apply for OCI. Otherwise, the only option is PIO card.
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ItIsNotFunny
10-03 01:53 PM
Although USCIS guidances are not binding, you might want to pay attention to the below (was not able to upload the attachment, you might want to google for it)
To: REGIONAL DIRECTORS
SERVICE CENTER DIRECTORS
From: Michael Aytes
Acting Director of Domestic Operations
Date: December 27, 2005
Re: Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and
H-1B petitions affected by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of
2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
Question 7. Should service centers or district offices request proof of �ability to pay� from
successor employers in I-140 portability cases, in other words, from the new
company/employer to which someone has ported?
Answer: No. The relevant inquiry is whether the new position is in the same or similar occupational
classification as the alien�s I-140 employment. It may be appropriate to confirm the legitimacy of a
new employer and the job offer through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information
about these issues. In an adjustment setting, public charge is also a relevant inquiry.
Question 8. Can an alien port to self-employment under INA �204(j)?
Answer: Yes, as long as the requirements are met. First, the key is whether the employment is in a
"same or similar" occupational classification as the job for which the original I-140 petition was filed.
Second, it may be appropriate to confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate
through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information about these issues. Third, as
with any portability case, USCIS will focus on whether the I-140 petition represented the truly
intended employment at the time of the filing of both the I-140 and the I-485. This means that, as
of the time of the filing of the I-140 and at the time of filing the I-485 if not filed concurrently, the I-
140 petitioner must have had the intent to employ the beneficiary, and the alien must have intended
to undertake the employment, upon adjustment. Adjudicators should not presume absence of such
intent and may take the I-140 and supporting documents themselves as prima facie evidence of such
intent, but in appropriate cases additional evidence or investigation may be appropriate.
Do you believe IOs understand any of these complex rules? Few days before someone posted that at the time of final GC interview IO even didn't know at all about July fiasco!
To: REGIONAL DIRECTORS
SERVICE CENTER DIRECTORS
From: Michael Aytes
Acting Director of Domestic Operations
Date: December 27, 2005
Re: Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and
H-1B petitions affected by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of
2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
Question 7. Should service centers or district offices request proof of �ability to pay� from
successor employers in I-140 portability cases, in other words, from the new
company/employer to which someone has ported?
Answer: No. The relevant inquiry is whether the new position is in the same or similar occupational
classification as the alien�s I-140 employment. It may be appropriate to confirm the legitimacy of a
new employer and the job offer through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information
about these issues. In an adjustment setting, public charge is also a relevant inquiry.
Question 8. Can an alien port to self-employment under INA �204(j)?
Answer: Yes, as long as the requirements are met. First, the key is whether the employment is in a
"same or similar" occupational classification as the job for which the original I-140 petition was filed.
Second, it may be appropriate to confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate
through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information about these issues. Third, as
with any portability case, USCIS will focus on whether the I-140 petition represented the truly
intended employment at the time of the filing of both the I-140 and the I-485. This means that, as
of the time of the filing of the I-140 and at the time of filing the I-485 if not filed concurrently, the I-
140 petitioner must have had the intent to employ the beneficiary, and the alien must have intended
to undertake the employment, upon adjustment. Adjudicators should not presume absence of such
intent and may take the I-140 and supporting documents themselves as prima facie evidence of such
intent, but in appropriate cases additional evidence or investigation may be appropriate.
Do you believe IOs understand any of these complex rules? Few days before someone posted that at the time of final GC interview IO even didn't know at all about July fiasco!
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neamoni
05-21 12:55 PM
It is at Aug 26th 2007. Try deleting your cookies or use IE.
Thanks, sunny1000!
Like I said, I did all that, including deleting cookies, and still nothing.
Thanks, sunny1000!
Like I said, I did all that, including deleting cookies, and still nothing.
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Dhundhun
06-24 03:31 AM
2. Make the check or money order payable to U.S.
Department of Homeland Security, unless:
Good observation. Thanks. I hope they honor, what they have written http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD also.
On the same page 8 of http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765instr.pdf USCIS has written over-rider:
The form fee on this form is current as of the edition date appearing in the lower right corner of this page. However, because USCIS fees change periodically, you can verify if the fees are correct by following one of the steps below:
1. Visit our website at www.uscis.gov, select "Immigration Forms," and check the appropriate fee;
2. Review the Fee Schedule included in your form package, if you called us to request the form; or
3. Telephone our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283 and ask for the fee information.
Based on over-rider information,
Fees should be made payable to Department of Homeland Security or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The instruction to pay U.S. Department of Homeland Security might be old (05/27/08 - just guess based on over rider information).
So I think, USCIS must be accepting payments in various forms of payable to. I can update in one or two days about "payable to USCIS" - Whether accepted or rejected.
I was looking into other info also about I-765 filing. The instruction is too old for students (Foreign Students). Most of the information is given for them in http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73ddd59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
Department of Homeland Security, unless:
Good observation. Thanks. I hope they honor, what they have written http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD also.
On the same page 8 of http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765instr.pdf USCIS has written over-rider:
The form fee on this form is current as of the edition date appearing in the lower right corner of this page. However, because USCIS fees change periodically, you can verify if the fees are correct by following one of the steps below:
1. Visit our website at www.uscis.gov, select "Immigration Forms," and check the appropriate fee;
2. Review the Fee Schedule included in your form package, if you called us to request the form; or
3. Telephone our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283 and ask for the fee information.
Based on over-rider information,
Fees should be made payable to Department of Homeland Security or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The instruction to pay U.S. Department of Homeland Security might be old (05/27/08 - just guess based on over rider information).
So I think, USCIS must be accepting payments in various forms of payable to. I can update in one or two days about "payable to USCIS" - Whether accepted or rejected.
I was looking into other info also about I-765 filing. The instruction is too old for students (Foreign Students). Most of the information is given for them in http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73ddd59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
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09-05 02:18 PM
I hope you are wrong about this. I do not see anything on the Approved AP that it should has been used for "humanitarian" purpose. It just mentions that the intention of AP is to allow the AOS applicant to return after temporary travel outside US. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Most people has very misconception about "parole". It is not a free/flexible travel document like visa. As a AOS applicant, one should not leave US till it is approved/denied. One MUST present in US during AOS. The parole is only for any emergency purpose; which is similar to prisioners. As USCIS is flexible, in approving the AP, the people don't realize the travel limitation of AP. They are travelling on AP for vatation/fun etc.. As per law, the AP is not intended for it. The CBP officer was right in asking the legitimacy of the travel. The AP document clearly says it is based on "humanitation" admission to retrun after an emergency travel.
Most people has very misconception about "parole". It is not a free/flexible travel document like visa. As a AOS applicant, one should not leave US till it is approved/denied. One MUST present in US during AOS. The parole is only for any emergency purpose; which is similar to prisioners. As USCIS is flexible, in approving the AP, the people don't realize the travel limitation of AP. They are travelling on AP for vatation/fun etc.. As per law, the AP is not intended for it. The CBP officer was right in asking the legitimacy of the travel. The AP document clearly says it is based on "humanitation" admission to retrun after an emergency travel.
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eb3retro
10-15 10:12 AM
Anyone? any updates on their pending AP renewal from Nebraska?
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vinodp1978
06-28 01:20 PM
Yeah . In that case will I get an EAD if 485/140 is filed and 140 is pending? My h1 will be expiring on Feb,08. Please advise.
realizeit
02-23 01:19 PM
From some of the posts I found that some folks are concerned that it took so long to find and recognize talent from India at Oscars. Some felt Richard Attenborough's and Danny Boyle's movies got recognition whereas other Indian directors are not reaching the pinnacle.
Even though OSCAR is recognized globally, it is an American movie award (Yes there are exceptions in some categories of OSCAR -- such as Foreign Movies etc). So, because of that reason, normal Indian and other Foreign movies are not eligible to be considered for the OSCAR. It is the same reason why Hollywood movies are not getting awards at the National Film awards in India!!!
What I meant was, a particular movie has to meet certain eligibility criteria to be considered for the OSCARs. So, if a Bollywood movie directed by a Bollywood director meets those criteria, that movie can compete in the OSCARs.
So, In essence there is not that much discrimination at Hollywood - I found Hollywood as a place which embraces all cultures and beliefs. Hollywood is the real catalyst for the American melting pot theme.
This argument is not a personal one targeted at anyone. So - Please try to avoid personal level attacks - Instead criticize the argument - that will make this argument more interesting!
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http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/rules/rule02.html
Major Rules for consideration at Oscar are:
1. All eligible motion pictures, unless otherwise noted (see Paragraph 9, below), must be:
a. feature length (defined as over 40 minutes),
b. publicly exhibited by means of 35mm or 70mm film, or in a 24- or 48-frame progressive scan Digital Cinema format with a minimum projector resolution of 2048 by 1080 pixels, source image format conforming to SMPTE 428-1-2006 D-Cinema – Image Characteristics; image compression (if used) conforming to ISO/IEC 15444-1 (JPEG 2000), and image and sound file formats suitable for exhibition in commercial Digital Cinema sites,
c. for paid admission in a commercial motion picture theater in Los Angeles County,
d. for a run of at least seven consecutive days,
e. advertised and exploited during their Los Angeles run in a manner considered normal and customary to the industry, and
f. within the Awards year deadlines specified in Rule Three.
2. Films that, in any version, receive their first public exhibition or distribution in any manner other than as a theatrical motion picture release will not be eligible for Academy Awards in any category. (This includes broadcast and cable television as well as home video marketing and Internet transmission.) However, ten minutes or ten percent of the running time of a film, whichever is shorter, is allowed to be shown in a nontheatrical medium prior to the film's theatrical release.
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“Slumdog Millionaire” would have excluded from OSCARs if it went straight to DVDs as per the initial assumption of its producers. Fox Searchlight rescued this movie and because of that it met all the rules above and included in the OSCAR competition.
Even though OSCAR is recognized globally, it is an American movie award (Yes there are exceptions in some categories of OSCAR -- such as Foreign Movies etc). So, because of that reason, normal Indian and other Foreign movies are not eligible to be considered for the OSCAR. It is the same reason why Hollywood movies are not getting awards at the National Film awards in India!!!
What I meant was, a particular movie has to meet certain eligibility criteria to be considered for the OSCARs. So, if a Bollywood movie directed by a Bollywood director meets those criteria, that movie can compete in the OSCARs.
So, In essence there is not that much discrimination at Hollywood - I found Hollywood as a place which embraces all cultures and beliefs. Hollywood is the real catalyst for the American melting pot theme.
This argument is not a personal one targeted at anyone. So - Please try to avoid personal level attacks - Instead criticize the argument - that will make this argument more interesting!
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http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/rules/rule02.html
Major Rules for consideration at Oscar are:
1. All eligible motion pictures, unless otherwise noted (see Paragraph 9, below), must be:
a. feature length (defined as over 40 minutes),
b. publicly exhibited by means of 35mm or 70mm film, or in a 24- or 48-frame progressive scan Digital Cinema format with a minimum projector resolution of 2048 by 1080 pixels, source image format conforming to SMPTE 428-1-2006 D-Cinema – Image Characteristics; image compression (if used) conforming to ISO/IEC 15444-1 (JPEG 2000), and image and sound file formats suitable for exhibition in commercial Digital Cinema sites,
c. for paid admission in a commercial motion picture theater in Los Angeles County,
d. for a run of at least seven consecutive days,
e. advertised and exploited during their Los Angeles run in a manner considered normal and customary to the industry, and
f. within the Awards year deadlines specified in Rule Three.
2. Films that, in any version, receive their first public exhibition or distribution in any manner other than as a theatrical motion picture release will not be eligible for Academy Awards in any category. (This includes broadcast and cable television as well as home video marketing and Internet transmission.) However, ten minutes or ten percent of the running time of a film, whichever is shorter, is allowed to be shown in a nontheatrical medium prior to the film's theatrical release.
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“Slumdog Millionaire” would have excluded from OSCARs if it went straight to DVDs as per the initial assumption of its producers. Fox Searchlight rescued this movie and because of that it met all the rules above and included in the OSCAR competition.
smuggymba
01-01 07:38 PM
My dear Mr. smuggymba -
for your kind information, sorry for starting rats comparison here but I came to US about half a dozen years before you. my priority date is 2006 and EB3. also I recognize that there are ppl out there who came earlier than me too. Its very easy to preach 'Life is decided by choices we make', 'your luck/fate, success is decided by your own effort, talent', 'if you have it, ppl will notice it and you will succeed' etc. when you spend the most energetic, productive part of your life in a country, you would expect that country reward you with atleast opportunities to prove your mettle. not to say its immensely painful when ppl who came years and years after you get GC and grow leaps and bounds right in front of your eyes.
P.S. I am not questioning your qualifications or anything.
Just chill man. You're the one who was calling GC garbage can and then spending your most productive years on garbage can. Who spends his most productive years on garbage can? Obviously GC is something bigger for you.
Anyway, best of luck and have fun with familiy. Don't take too much stress...hopefully Obama will do something and everyone will have GC in 2-3 years. chill. Indians and Chinese have a disadvantage in this GC race and it affects all of us. A guy from Argentina already has GC and we applied at the same time. I also see these things around me but we can't do anything. We chose it.
for your kind information, sorry for starting rats comparison here but I came to US about half a dozen years before you. my priority date is 2006 and EB3. also I recognize that there are ppl out there who came earlier than me too. Its very easy to preach 'Life is decided by choices we make', 'your luck/fate, success is decided by your own effort, talent', 'if you have it, ppl will notice it and you will succeed' etc. when you spend the most energetic, productive part of your life in a country, you would expect that country reward you with atleast opportunities to prove your mettle. not to say its immensely painful when ppl who came years and years after you get GC and grow leaps and bounds right in front of your eyes.
P.S. I am not questioning your qualifications or anything.
Just chill man. You're the one who was calling GC garbage can and then spending your most productive years on garbage can. Who spends his most productive years on garbage can? Obviously GC is something bigger for you.
Anyway, best of luck and have fun with familiy. Don't take too much stress...hopefully Obama will do something and everyone will have GC in 2-3 years. chill. Indians and Chinese have a disadvantage in this GC race and it affects all of us. A guy from Argentina already has GC and we applied at the same time. I also see these things around me but we can't do anything. We chose it.
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