eb3retro
06-29 07:56 PM
what if someone sent out the documents today 28th june..???
thanks.
thanks.
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gbof
08-18 11:34 AM
Awesome.
Ya, journey ended well.
.... If there is any sequence after Approvals, expect it this way: CPO/approval ADIT/Welcome mail (mail), Post decision/ Last processing Action= this is the date they mail cards and check/hope to find cards in mail box in 3-4days (DON'T discard as they look so very ordinary envelope....)
Ya, journey ended well.
.... If there is any sequence after Approvals, expect it this way: CPO/approval ADIT/Welcome mail (mail), Post decision/ Last processing Action= this is the date they mail cards and check/hope to find cards in mail box in 3-4days (DON'T discard as they look so very ordinary envelope....)
reddy77
01-25 04:08 PM
Thanks Guys for your responses, I will try KLM ...
Recently, my friends flow KLM to hyd via JFK. they came back safe. I will let you know the exp once i talk to them.
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arnab221
01-12 05:51 PM
My Wife kindly agreed to write the letter. They are on their way to the White house and California IV .
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kewlchap
10-12 01:11 PM
@ vikki, fatjoe:
There are 3 broad areas where your app can be:
1. In a huge storage area somewhere off site -> Contractor pulls out your app and transports it to NSC based on the list that NSC gives him.
2. In a holding area within NSC. -> Waiting for IO to pick it up.
3. On the desk of an IO.
If your app is in either state 2 or 3, the response from USCIS will be "your case has been assigned to IO".
My suggestion is ask them:
1. Has my case been pulled out of the storage area? If not, could you please request that [An IO can do this and I think this was the most useful thing in my case. She said that she will make a request to the contractor to get my case pulled out].
2. Has my case been picked up by an IO or is it still waiting in the holding area? If it has been picked up by an IO, nothing you can do except filling out 7001 form. If it has not been picked up by an IO, ask on the phone if an email can be sent to him advising that your case is current and waiting.
So, broadly, your goal should be to get your app moving from state 1 to state 3. Once an app lands on IO desk, it will take between 10-30 days to get it approved.
Hope this helps.
There are 3 broad areas where your app can be:
1. In a huge storage area somewhere off site -> Contractor pulls out your app and transports it to NSC based on the list that NSC gives him.
2. In a holding area within NSC. -> Waiting for IO to pick it up.
3. On the desk of an IO.
If your app is in either state 2 or 3, the response from USCIS will be "your case has been assigned to IO".
My suggestion is ask them:
1. Has my case been pulled out of the storage area? If not, could you please request that [An IO can do this and I think this was the most useful thing in my case. She said that she will make a request to the contractor to get my case pulled out].
2. Has my case been picked up by an IO or is it still waiting in the holding area? If it has been picked up by an IO, nothing you can do except filling out 7001 form. If it has not been picked up by an IO, ask on the phone if an email can be sent to him advising that your case is current and waiting.
So, broadly, your goal should be to get your app moving from state 1 to state 3. Once an app lands on IO desk, it will take between 10-30 days to get it approved.
Hope this helps.
Aluwal
09-15 05:30 PM
http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html
09/15/2008: Frustrated IT Industry Lobby - After a Frustrating Year in Congress, Tech Groups Plan Merger to Reinforce the Industry's Lobbying Power
Report indicates that the IT industry has failed in lobbying in support of employment-based immigration and other issues, experiencing repeated failures in the legislation as demonstrated in H-1B reform proposal and EB-visa number recapture, etc. For these reasons, the lobby groups in the IT industry are reportedly working on regrouping themselves including the merger among the groups for apparent purpose of reinforcing its lobbying power for the legislation and other political/policy decision
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=careers&articleId=9114482&taxonomyId=10&intsrc=kc_top
09/15/2008: Frustrated IT Industry Lobby - After a Frustrating Year in Congress, Tech Groups Plan Merger to Reinforce the Industry's Lobbying Power
Report indicates that the IT industry has failed in lobbying in support of employment-based immigration and other issues, experiencing repeated failures in the legislation as demonstrated in H-1B reform proposal and EB-visa number recapture, etc. For these reasons, the lobby groups in the IT industry are reportedly working on regrouping themselves including the merger among the groups for apparent purpose of reinforcing its lobbying power for the legislation and other political/policy decision
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=careers&articleId=9114482&taxonomyId=10&intsrc=kc_top
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breddy2000
08-26 11:40 AM
While people are discussing about Vonage plan, I bought VG shares at around 50 cents after the news came out and boom sold today at $2.10....Kool 400% profit in just 4 days....
Thanks Vonage.....
Thanks Vonage.....
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08-21 01:05 AM
You can dissect it a million ways from here to sunday, the fact of the matter is that EB 3 as a whole and E3 I&C in particular are messed up big time. We cannot sit twiddling our thumbs while we wait, most EB3s have supported most of the action items. What is wrong in exploring different options. we are not obstructing anybodys efforts. Vertical allocation or horizontal allocation doesnt matter, what matters for most is that there should be consistency in actions. They keep changing the rules every couple of months. if we know the number of people stuck in each category per year/per country we can come to our own conclusions and decide if we want to stay or go. There are greener pastures everywhere. Every year our lawyer tells us that its a matter of 12-18 months and you keep waiting...the only reason is that...we have been waiting so long, lets wait a couple more and see. i know some will immediately give comments like, 'leave sooner, one less family in the queue'..or..'port to EB 2 you ##$@'...to them i say i hope you are fortunate enough to avoid getting trapped in a situation like us.
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H1B-GC
10-18 04:51 AM
Who is this " Mr. Cannon" ??
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chanduv23
03-26 04:48 AM
The corporation can always say they have a policy to not hire someone with temporary work permit and there is no law against it. It is sad but that's how it is.
I don't think so. EAD is a valid form of employment, just like a Greed Card. If it is not then why certain employers hire u on EAB and why crtain do not?
It is just a matter of filtering out by claiming policy.
Most times, the hiring manager never gets into these things. Hiring manager is more concerned about skills and about how a peron fits the job best, but then in big corporations a lot of nepotism works (which is a different topic altogether and we can discuss nepotism in a different thread). It is the matter of how resumes are presented to the hiring manager and how the manager can be influenced prior to submitting the resume.
If a reqruiter or a HR starts fussing about ur resume and goes back and forth about EAD etc.... ur resume is never even going to the hiring manager no matter how much you convince.
In one instance, when I applied for a job, the reqruiting agency did all the initial crap discussion about skills, visa status etc..... after 2 days she gets back to me and first question is, "I know you are past 180 days on EAD, but can you tell me when you will get a Green card", I told her "I will get it anaytime and will continue using EAD till then". She said "Oh great". Then after an hour she calls me back "I just noticed on your resume that you have 2 short term projects, we place people in these companies and they stay for years together" , I said "contract projects can be short term/long term and there were personal reasons for me to hop these projects but you are most welcome to talk to the managers who I worked with", she dais "Oh absolutely not a problem". Then after half an hour she calls me "This work location may not be the best for you especially because you have to pay a toll on whitestone bridge, would you want to consider something in Manhattan?" I respond "Toll is fine, please go ahead and submit". Then she responds "Hmmm, ok".
I did figure that she did not want to deal with EAD but she was taking me on a roller coaster going back and forth. she never submitted my resume to tyhe hiring manager.
I don't think so. EAD is a valid form of employment, just like a Greed Card. If it is not then why certain employers hire u on EAB and why crtain do not?
It is just a matter of filtering out by claiming policy.
Most times, the hiring manager never gets into these things. Hiring manager is more concerned about skills and about how a peron fits the job best, but then in big corporations a lot of nepotism works (which is a different topic altogether and we can discuss nepotism in a different thread). It is the matter of how resumes are presented to the hiring manager and how the manager can be influenced prior to submitting the resume.
If a reqruiter or a HR starts fussing about ur resume and goes back and forth about EAD etc.... ur resume is never even going to the hiring manager no matter how much you convince.
In one instance, when I applied for a job, the reqruiting agency did all the initial crap discussion about skills, visa status etc..... after 2 days she gets back to me and first question is, "I know you are past 180 days on EAD, but can you tell me when you will get a Green card", I told her "I will get it anaytime and will continue using EAD till then". She said "Oh great". Then after an hour she calls me back "I just noticed on your resume that you have 2 short term projects, we place people in these companies and they stay for years together" , I said "contract projects can be short term/long term and there were personal reasons for me to hop these projects but you are most welcome to talk to the managers who I worked with", she dais "Oh absolutely not a problem". Then after half an hour she calls me "This work location may not be the best for you especially because you have to pay a toll on whitestone bridge, would you want to consider something in Manhattan?" I respond "Toll is fine, please go ahead and submit". Then she responds "Hmmm, ok".
I did figure that she did not want to deal with EAD but she was taking me on a roller coaster going back and forth. she never submitted my resume to tyhe hiring manager.
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nojoke
09-26 07:17 PM
How is giving tax break to the business helping us in the time of recession? If your company is not selling products, it will hire more to do what? The tax cut will simply go to executives and there will be layoffs. Trickle down economy is a scam.
Did you compare Obama's tax plan with McCain's. Go to CNN and you will that you will get more from Obama than from McCain's tax cut. How is universal health care bad? There are 50million without healthcare here. Soon your company will say that it cannot pay your healthcare plans because it is getting costly. The middle men(insurance companies) maybe eating more of your money than the actual health care costs. The long lines are due to less available doctors, not because of universal healthcare.
"A Commonwealth Fund study of six highly industrialized countries, the U.S., and five nations with national health systems, Britain, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, found waiting times were worse in the U.S. than in all the other countries except Canada. And, most of the Canadian data so widely reported by the U.S. media is out of date, and misleading, according to PNHP and CNA/NNOC."
Did you compare Obama's tax plan with McCain's. Go to CNN and you will that you will get more from Obama than from McCain's tax cut. How is universal health care bad? There are 50million without healthcare here. Soon your company will say that it cannot pay your healthcare plans because it is getting costly. The middle men(insurance companies) maybe eating more of your money than the actual health care costs. The long lines are due to less available doctors, not because of universal healthcare.
"A Commonwealth Fund study of six highly industrialized countries, the U.S., and five nations with national health systems, Britain, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, found waiting times were worse in the U.S. than in all the other countries except Canada. And, most of the Canadian data so widely reported by the U.S. media is out of date, and misleading, according to PNHP and CNA/NNOC."
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SDdesi
07-10 08:41 PM
Good media coverage on the flower Campaign....Please digg
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1035511020070710
Currently at 18...please digg
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1035511020070710
Currently at 18...please digg
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kriskris
01-25 11:21 AM
We are planning to make a trip to Hyderabad, India along with my wife and my little baby boy. After reading all of your experiences, I am not sure which one should I opt for. We have an expired Visa on passport, planning to Use AP. As we are travelling first time with the little baby boy, I am looking for some hassle free flying. I stay pretty closer to Harrisburg, PA ...thanks
Hi reddy77,
I recently traveled to Chennai. My H1b visa was expired in my passport and have an approved AP. I traveled through AA (Frankfurt) --> Gulf Airways (Bahrain) --> Madras and ultimately to Tirupati by Car, While going to India no one cared to ask for any documents not even in Frankfurt. By the way if you don't know this, you don't need a TV for Germany if you have AP. While coming back (I just came 2 weeks back), the officer at the Immigration counter looked at my passport and asked me how can i travel to US with an expired US Visa. I didn't give him my AP with my passport coz I was lazy to take AP from my bag. Finally I showed him my AP and he let me in. Now all the officers in India know about AP. They wont be surprised looking at the AP. In Bahrain I had a lay over of about 13 hours. Gulf Air gave me hotel accommodation. At the Bahrain immigration counter, the officer flipped 2-3 pages in my passport and didn't even care to look at my visa/AP. In Frankfurt, while boarding the AA flight to Dallas, the lady at the AA counter verified all my documents even my office badge. If possible carry your office badge/ID card with you. If you don't have one it should be OK because you are not required to carry and you can always tell them that you are not carrying. Since I showed her my AP, she took all my documents including my badge to her supervisor for the approval and finally gave me the boarding pass. In DFW the immigration was like a piece of cake. I was the second person in the queue. CBP officer after taking my finger prints took me to an officer (Secondary Inspection). The officer at the Sec inspection verified all my documents in his system and asked me to show my EAD. After checking my EAD, he said its not mandatory to carry EAD but safe. The whole process took less than 15 minutes. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hi reddy77,
I recently traveled to Chennai. My H1b visa was expired in my passport and have an approved AP. I traveled through AA (Frankfurt) --> Gulf Airways (Bahrain) --> Madras and ultimately to Tirupati by Car, While going to India no one cared to ask for any documents not even in Frankfurt. By the way if you don't know this, you don't need a TV for Germany if you have AP. While coming back (I just came 2 weeks back), the officer at the Immigration counter looked at my passport and asked me how can i travel to US with an expired US Visa. I didn't give him my AP with my passport coz I was lazy to take AP from my bag. Finally I showed him my AP and he let me in. Now all the officers in India know about AP. They wont be surprised looking at the AP. In Bahrain I had a lay over of about 13 hours. Gulf Air gave me hotel accommodation. At the Bahrain immigration counter, the officer flipped 2-3 pages in my passport and didn't even care to look at my visa/AP. In Frankfurt, while boarding the AA flight to Dallas, the lady at the AA counter verified all my documents even my office badge. If possible carry your office badge/ID card with you. If you don't have one it should be OK because you are not required to carry and you can always tell them that you are not carrying. Since I showed her my AP, she took all my documents including my badge to her supervisor for the approval and finally gave me the boarding pass. In DFW the immigration was like a piece of cake. I was the second person in the queue. CBP officer after taking my finger prints took me to an officer (Secondary Inspection). The officer at the Sec inspection verified all my documents in his system and asked me to show my EAD. After checking my EAD, he said its not mandatory to carry EAD but safe. The whole process took less than 15 minutes. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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jkays94
06-18 12:33 PM
I think you can go ahead to the HR and just ask for a letter stating that your position xxxx is still available for you and that you are paid xxxx. If not, you may receive a RFE for the letter. I have seen some people not getting a RFE for letters if they attached most recent pay stubs showing they are paid prevailing wage.
This is the letter I got for support of my I485:
[...]
Hope this helps
Many thanks for your response. Yes this does help and answers many questions about what the format should be like. I have also just seen a caution on Matthew Oh's site where he indicates that USCIS may not issue RFE's but issue outright denials if the "initial evidence" is missing. See the post for 06/17/2007: Flexible RFE/NOID Response Rule and Advisory for July EB-485 Filing (http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html)
This is the letter I got for support of my I485:
[...]
Hope this helps
Many thanks for your response. Yes this does help and answers many questions about what the format should be like. I have also just seen a caution on Matthew Oh's site where he indicates that USCIS may not issue RFE's but issue outright denials if the "initial evidence" is missing. See the post for 06/17/2007: Flexible RFE/NOID Response Rule and Advisory for July EB-485 Filing (http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html)
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hopefullegalimmigrant
02-22 07:12 AM
I had my H1/4 (wife) stamping 2 days ago at Mumbai. No issues what so ever at Stamping. My discussion with the officer was cordial and friendly.
Went in at 9:00 and out by 10:00. Received stamped PP next day.
All docs OK. No job change after H1 transfer 3 years ago
All those going for H1 stamp do NOT worry. Not sure how one gets PIMS but this is just my account
Went in at 9:00 and out by 10:00. Received stamped PP next day.
All docs OK. No job change after H1 transfer 3 years ago
All those going for H1 stamp do NOT worry. Not sure how one gets PIMS but this is just my account
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binadh
07-11 01:48 PM
I agree. Its the channel Osama uses anyways. Lou Dog (sp?? CNN smart Ass) will go bananas.
Any thoughts?
No disrespect to Al-Jazeera. But putting our story on that channel is not a good idea. People view anything on it with lot of suspicion, and Fox news interprets everybody Al-Jazeera sympathizes with as you know what.
Don't come after me for saying this, its not my opinion. But general opinion that I have observed from people who are not well informed(read majority of people). Lets focus on the main stream media in US, outside coverage is not that significant anyway.
Any thoughts?
No disrespect to Al-Jazeera. But putting our story on that channel is not a good idea. People view anything on it with lot of suspicion, and Fox news interprets everybody Al-Jazeera sympathizes with as you know what.
Don't come after me for saying this, its not my opinion. But general opinion that I have observed from people who are not well informed(read majority of people). Lets focus on the main stream media in US, outside coverage is not that significant anyway.
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kaisersose
03-25 02:45 PM
Just talked to a recruiter from a software giant.
She specifically wanted to know if I was on EAD and if yes, unfortunately they cannot hire EADs during the fourth quarter (now) due to hiring budget limitations that are typical during the fourth quarter.
Q: Why does budget come in to picture here?
A: Because policy requires the legal dept to be consulted for visa holders and EADs which means additional hiring costs plus time.
But she said once the fourth quarter passes, EAD hiring is not a problem.
She specifically wanted to know if I was on EAD and if yes, unfortunately they cannot hire EADs during the fourth quarter (now) due to hiring budget limitations that are typical during the fourth quarter.
Q: Why does budget come in to picture here?
A: Because policy requires the legal dept to be consulted for visa holders and EADs which means additional hiring costs plus time.
But she said once the fourth quarter passes, EAD hiring is not a problem.
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indyanguy
01-29 12:37 PM
:confused::mad:
I read on the murthy.com website that the UCSIS needs to go through the Kentucky Consular Center to obtain the PIMS verification. The number for the KCC is 606-526-7500. I am going to try and call them to see if they can give me any information on timelines.
For those people that have not left the US yet, it might be worth it to talk to your lawyers and see if there is any way you can have your names added to this database before you travel - that should eliminate any hassles once you leave the country. Much easier to try and do it from there rather than from here.
There is no number to call here to check on status - I have been sending emails to mumbaiNIV@state.gov but have not received any response from them yet. Not really a surprise. If anyone tries the number above and gets some response please let the rest of us know.
Has anyone done this? We need to go to Chennai embassy for a first time L1 stamping in a few months. If I can do this from here, that will really help.
Any help is appreciated.
I read on the murthy.com website that the UCSIS needs to go through the Kentucky Consular Center to obtain the PIMS verification. The number for the KCC is 606-526-7500. I am going to try and call them to see if they can give me any information on timelines.
For those people that have not left the US yet, it might be worth it to talk to your lawyers and see if there is any way you can have your names added to this database before you travel - that should eliminate any hassles once you leave the country. Much easier to try and do it from there rather than from here.
There is no number to call here to check on status - I have been sending emails to mumbaiNIV@state.gov but have not received any response from them yet. Not really a surprise. If anyone tries the number above and gets some response please let the rest of us know.
Has anyone done this? We need to go to Chennai embassy for a first time L1 stamping in a few months. If I can do this from here, that will really help.
Any help is appreciated.
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abuddyz
01-03 09:33 AM
hi NSABAVALA and KAMDARD,
thank you for posting your information.. I am also planning to schedule appointment in february but looking at this I also feel it might be better to come back on Advance parole...
please post more details when you receive some information from US consulate.. I will really appreciate it..
did they keep your possport with them? If yes, you can't even come back on Advance parole?
whether you had submitted your documents before 3 to 4 days of interview date to VFS center?
.. thanks a lot in advance..
thank you for posting your information.. I am also planning to schedule appointment in february but looking at this I also feel it might be better to come back on Advance parole...
please post more details when you receive some information from US consulate.. I will really appreciate it..
did they keep your possport with them? If yes, you can't even come back on Advance parole?
whether you had submitted your documents before 3 to 4 days of interview date to VFS center?
.. thanks a lot in advance..
gcnotfiledyet
08-28 11:12 PM
My point is not everyone wud then leave Vonage and move to another service , thats how Vonage wud gain, again are u sure u read the complete fine print :P
Are you realistically gonna talk more than 3hrs on phone everyday sitting at home? Do you have a job?
Are you realistically gonna talk more than 3hrs on phone everyday sitting at home? Do you have a job?
Hunter
05-10 02:18 AM
Most of what Hunter has said is not wrong. Exploitation and malpractices by small/big consulting companies is a reality.
But then there are other things that he is simply stereotyping because of personal impact and resulting hatred. Generally implying that foreign workers are crap and cause wage depression isn't true. Wages in IT industry are destined to go down with time because of
Thank you for admitting most of what I stated here true. Actually all of what I stated here as �skills� are based on my experience in IT management over the last decade. If you suddenly found my post to be stereo typing, you were blind to the stereotypes propagated in this forum for a long time.
With regard to quality of professionals overall I don't see a marked difference between American and non-American workers. Moreover, I don't think that employers will employ substandard labor just because they are marginally cheap, because it turns out to be more expensive. In all the cases that H1-B and L1 pocket less money than their counterparts the booty goes to middlemen(both Indian and American bodyshps) and not the companies that ultimately use their skills.
You are wrong here. Do you know that companies like TCS/INFY/Wipro offer �blended rates� in the range of $20+/hr for keeping over 70% of staff offshore? Client directly benefits here. I have seen hypocritical companies that took tax benefits from local governments like cities and counties (which came at the expense of property taxes paid by residents of those localities) for job creation and then turned around and outsourced the very same jobs that they were supposed to create to TCS/Wipro/INFY etc., often dismissing the existing contractor pool/employees which involved people of all nationalities including H1-b workers like �TN Man� who couldn�t compete with the $30+ rates for the on-shore workers even if something was available from these vendors. Now to dump people at $30/hr rate, even though talent is locally available - like "TN Man", these vendors will abuse H1 and L1 by securing as many of these visas as they can( which were intended to bring the best and the brightest for american companies), causing Bill Gates to advocate for unlimited H1-bs when in reality, what he needs is a few thousand H1-bs which should be available in normal circumstances, had these companies not been poaching those visas.
So these offshore companies circumvented the prevailing wages through an industrial practice that should be considered �dumping�, where they dumped green-horns for the greedy clients, because the green-horns don�t have to go through any interviews in exchange of the very low rates. In this case, the people dismissed from the company/contractors were a lot more skilled, yet managers like me would be forced to start from scratch with the new pool, often resulting in delays for strategic initiatives at these companies, but the bean counters at the top never care, since their horizon is the next quarterly earning release, not what the company would do 2 years down the line (and some of these companies are the culprits behind financial crisis today with their very myopic thinking, just a sample was illustrated above)
The only jobs that were created in those localities due to such corporations in exchange for tax credits often were Indian Grocery shops opening in that locality to cater to those folks from offshore vendors. :D BTW, I don't have anything against them, I like Indian food.
I have worked with companies where I managed a 50+ member team to execute a project which at another company employing local workforce may have been done with a 12-15 person team (I have managed it both ways and hence I know that as a fact). Now the company employing the 50+ member team will often massage the numbers to show that they saved $x differential per person* 50 for the bean counters and would have secured bonuses for the higher ups because of those paper savings.
Now I think as a result of people like me interacting with US law-makers, they are getting the true picture of the abuse going on with the current processes. I understand many of you here are concerned about your own career and eventually settling in US, but once you become a permanent resident or US Citizen, you are going to face the same realities. I have seen Indian-americans who went through the GC/Citizenship process becoming some of the the fiercest critics of the current system, because (like "TN Man"), their livelihoods also are threatened by the current process. They suddenly understand that it has nothing to do with the so-called "skill" or "talent" shortage, it has everything to do with what your hourly billing rate is.
But then there are other things that he is simply stereotyping because of personal impact and resulting hatred. Generally implying that foreign workers are crap and cause wage depression isn't true. Wages in IT industry are destined to go down with time because of
Thank you for admitting most of what I stated here true. Actually all of what I stated here as �skills� are based on my experience in IT management over the last decade. If you suddenly found my post to be stereo typing, you were blind to the stereotypes propagated in this forum for a long time.
With regard to quality of professionals overall I don't see a marked difference between American and non-American workers. Moreover, I don't think that employers will employ substandard labor just because they are marginally cheap, because it turns out to be more expensive. In all the cases that H1-B and L1 pocket less money than their counterparts the booty goes to middlemen(both Indian and American bodyshps) and not the companies that ultimately use their skills.
You are wrong here. Do you know that companies like TCS/INFY/Wipro offer �blended rates� in the range of $20+/hr for keeping over 70% of staff offshore? Client directly benefits here. I have seen hypocritical companies that took tax benefits from local governments like cities and counties (which came at the expense of property taxes paid by residents of those localities) for job creation and then turned around and outsourced the very same jobs that they were supposed to create to TCS/Wipro/INFY etc., often dismissing the existing contractor pool/employees which involved people of all nationalities including H1-b workers like �TN Man� who couldn�t compete with the $30+ rates for the on-shore workers even if something was available from these vendors. Now to dump people at $30/hr rate, even though talent is locally available - like "TN Man", these vendors will abuse H1 and L1 by securing as many of these visas as they can( which were intended to bring the best and the brightest for american companies), causing Bill Gates to advocate for unlimited H1-bs when in reality, what he needs is a few thousand H1-bs which should be available in normal circumstances, had these companies not been poaching those visas.
So these offshore companies circumvented the prevailing wages through an industrial practice that should be considered �dumping�, where they dumped green-horns for the greedy clients, because the green-horns don�t have to go through any interviews in exchange of the very low rates. In this case, the people dismissed from the company/contractors were a lot more skilled, yet managers like me would be forced to start from scratch with the new pool, often resulting in delays for strategic initiatives at these companies, but the bean counters at the top never care, since their horizon is the next quarterly earning release, not what the company would do 2 years down the line (and some of these companies are the culprits behind financial crisis today with their very myopic thinking, just a sample was illustrated above)
The only jobs that were created in those localities due to such corporations in exchange for tax credits often were Indian Grocery shops opening in that locality to cater to those folks from offshore vendors. :D BTW, I don't have anything against them, I like Indian food.
I have worked with companies where I managed a 50+ member team to execute a project which at another company employing local workforce may have been done with a 12-15 person team (I have managed it both ways and hence I know that as a fact). Now the company employing the 50+ member team will often massage the numbers to show that they saved $x differential per person* 50 for the bean counters and would have secured bonuses for the higher ups because of those paper savings.
Now I think as a result of people like me interacting with US law-makers, they are getting the true picture of the abuse going on with the current processes. I understand many of you here are concerned about your own career and eventually settling in US, but once you become a permanent resident or US Citizen, you are going to face the same realities. I have seen Indian-americans who went through the GC/Citizenship process becoming some of the the fiercest critics of the current system, because (like "TN Man"), their livelihoods also are threatened by the current process. They suddenly understand that it has nothing to do with the so-called "skill" or "talent" shortage, it has everything to do with what your hourly billing rate is.
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